Following from previous presentations and discussions at the symposium and based on experience gained across numerous recent cycle signal designs, from simple crossings to multiple major Cyclops arrangements, the paper and presentation will highlight some unusual layouts, innovative approaches to improving cycle facilities, and discuss the oddities, omissions and ambiguities in design requirements from LTN 1-20 and TSM Chapter 6. Proposing a ‘4way forward’ to accompany the national guidance, that looks to resolve the inconsistencies and design challenges in following the differing design guidance.